Blood for the Baron!

Gonna butt right in back on topic for a moment.

The Palitoy era by a country mile wins for me because of the imagery.

To me wave 1 was miniature Action Men, nothing wrong with that but I wasn't captivated, and the AF/Cobra era was too much about over-the-top, disjoint characters and not enough about teamwork and war. But the palitoy 4 Forces + Enemy era was spot on.

I really didn't care then and don't care now about the articulation; at the time the stiff limbed and (to me) crucially anonymous SAS attack trooper was by far the most amazing thing I had ever owned, and neither Blades nor Hunter nor Stalker could get close to that.

To be honest the much better scripts during the Ironblood era of BAF comic cemented an affiliation that wasn't even slightly wobbled by the later works.

Ive grown to appretiate the 1st wave more now that I'm older, they are an inportant step in the evolution of action figures here in the U.K., the bridge between 12" & 3.3/4" scale for Palitoy!

The Baron wrote:Guys, is there any chance of opening up an ongoing twattery thread?

Sorry to hijack but here you go Baron one is up now. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=6161&p=70389#p70389

Thundershot wrote:Ive grown to appretiate the 1st wave more now that I'm older, they are an inportant step in the evolution of action figures here in the U.K., the bridge between 12" & 3.3/4" scale for Palitoy!

i would say i would agree with you there eddie, it certainly does mark a new era for action figures in the uk, for me i'm not overly keen on series 1 but on the same note i do appreciate that without it we may not of had any of the rest, from an historical point of view series 1 is the most important.

It just occurred to me that my sense of being ripped off by the transition from to (ATC, Command Centre, Dart, Lance, Shaft, Whirlwind, Sealion and Triad all being re-released with new stickers) would have applied equally to the first wave fans and the transition from to

Was anyone here upset by the introduction of the Shadows and Teams over the mini Action Men, or was it generally viewed as a step in the right direction?

It was just as the Little AM's became the four forces v the Enemy that I got involved in AF, so for me there was no sense of being robbed at all! I can't remember whether it was because of the Comics I got into AF, or the other way around, but I suspect I was one of the ones that the inserts into Eagle etc worked on!

Mini AM's for me, were just the "left over old stuff that doesn't feature in the stories".

SteveD wrote:It was just as the Little AM's became the four forces v the Enemy that I got involved in AF, so for me there was no sense of being robbed at all! I can't remember whether it was because of the Comics I got into AF, or the other way around, but I suspect I was one of the ones that the inserts into Eagle etc worked on!

Mini AM's for me, were just the "left over old stuff that doesn't feature in the stories".

it was the free figures with the comics that got me hooked.

a brilliant piece of promotion, wish the toy companies would do something similar these days.

With marketing strategies like those used on us as 6 or 7 year olds (I was born in 77) we were helpless to resist really weren't we!

The Baron wrote:It just occurred to me that my sense of being ripped off by the transition from to (ATC, Command Centre, Dart, Lance, Shaft, Whirlwind, Sealion and Triad all being re-released with new stickers) would have applied equally to the first wave fans and the transition from to

Was anyone here upset by the introduction of the Shadows and Teams over the mini Action Men, or was it generally viewed as a step in the right direction?

Sort of, yes. We never had GI Joe in NZ and when I first saw the 3 3/4 AM (Swivel arm Joes) me and my battered Action Man were disgusted. It took me quite a while to warm to them. Still don't like them as much as VAM. I only collected them to hack into AF customs or later because they were the same as series 3 AF.

However...... After I discovered BFTB and learned of Series One (I'd never seen them before because BAF never made mention of them) it made me smile. I knew AF and TAM (Toltoys 3 3/4 Action Men) had a history rooted in Action Man but this was like the bridge. Someone on BFTB (not naming names, but Steve knows who it is) sent me a couple of Series 1 guys and I just had to put them next to my VAM's. They look perfect together and solidifies that link between ALL the VAM's, MAM's, BAF's, TAM's, MAF's and Joes. Now that is REALLY cool don't you think? Series One is the not so missing link.

No offence, but I don't see the point of this thread; if you consider Palitoy and Hasbro as complementary like me, then you must think that neither both nor was released with the articulations of the other, so to get them both you must appreciate both types of articulation. If you think about both as different collections, then why are you comparing them? Super Powers were less articulated than Hasbro , Marvel Legends were more articulated than Palitoy , but does that deserve a comparison?

: Dismissed.