BFTB Backstory Project: Baron Ironblood

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Baron, that comic was a great read ;-), but for the Ironblood angle it just never sat well with me. I looked at that one like it was another mad man trying to take over back then and for the little tie-in at the end was just for fun even know the 2 have similar intentions.

Well for the 006 story, I don't really think that fits the bill with Ironblood, plus you want something that hasn't been used already. Maybe just take some pieces to use, as the Cossacks have been used many times before.

It would be more believable to keep him in Switzerland IMO, and during an allied bombing run over Switzerland his family was killed. Then being picked up during a German partol after he is on his own for a while. That way his family being killed as time to fester and become something more than just a nightmare. In German hands he becomes some sort of German doctor's errand boy. Could be where he starts to develope a taste for genetics and human experimentation. Maybe the doctor came from a wealthy family and the only living of his family and took Ironblood in as his own. Then at the close of the war, the doctor was killed by and allied assault on the doctor's castle/lab, living Ironblood with more reason for hate/revenge and with the doctors wealth (as an added touch). Ironblood flees Germany as Berlin falls for somewhere else and takes up education to farther what he learned under the doctor? It's rough, but might be something to work with. What do you think?

There were Nazi parties in just about every country at the time. I would say that for the most part though Switzerland was just there in the middle of it all without supporting ether side. I can only imagine what something like that would do to a child that was caught in the middle and loosing their family. Their family being neutral to both sides and then becoming collateral damage on one side and then being excepted by the other. That could very well cause many problems that start the flame of I want to rule the world complex.

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That's all good, but it won't tie him into South America and/or Hitler in South America either. I wasn't thinking of him being a Cossack, but his family falling victim the same way. Collateral damage by the Russians after the fall of Berlin and he blames the Allies for not stopping the Soviets pillaging West Germany, leaving his family to soviet mercy (or lake there of).

I don't think Vagen is Ironblood either. Cool story tho.

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my take in my fan-fic was that he was the son of a Nazi who fled to South America and his motivation for world domination was the Nazi ideology he'd been brought up with, he just doesn't subscribe to the Aryan master race bull. He's just out for world domination and a totalitarian government.

educated in South America's best schools, some scientific knowledge.

as for funding, he starts off with some money from Nazi loot, does some mercenary work and starts recruiting first Shads. sans mind control.

the bank raid in AF: Formation is to get at funds in Swiss numbered accounts from the war, getting him more cash.

might also want to work in the idea of him taking over factories in Third World or ex-Soviet nations to build the Hyenas, Roboskulls and Shadowtraks...

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momaw nadon said "I only say that is because Germany is defeated and so much comes from those two nations to supply his armies from what I have read."
Or Maybe his Hate of those countries is why he has so many of them as troopers? I mean you dont worry too much about those 100 dead troops if you already hated them and merely brainwashed them into service. Plus its double fold, send 100 brainwashed Russian Shadow's to fight 150 Russian soldiers. They obliterate each other and Baron would get a chuckle knowing he killed 250 men.
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One important angle that is often overlooked is the piracy. The Red Shadow logo is a skull and crossbones, after all.

In the Black Major origin story, Ironblood's first activity is a submarine assault upon the Antarctic. There is then the seaborne invasion of Ascendency Island. In Operation Bloodhound, Ironblood commands an entire fleet of warships and pillages the South Seas and in Sea Fury we find him rebuilding his fleet.

Let's not forget the Russian lettering and codes on all of the Shad hardware either.

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Ironblood has a fleet of ships???? :shock:
So then he either controls a country behind the scenes, Controls openly, or has payed a pretty penny to a goverment for them to look the other way.
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Lots of great ideas here. I like Sundance's idea of ex Soviet War factories.
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Sundance's idea is pretty much where I was heading. There are a lot of pirates in central/south America too and plenty of places to build and hide ships. So that could work quite well. No reason why he couldn't have European factories either. Hell, Mosquito's were made in carpenters shops.

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Chopper wrote:That's all good, but it won't tie him into South America and/or Hitler in South America either. I wasn't thinking of him being a Cossack, but his family falling victim the same way. Collateral damage by the Russians after the fall of Berlin and he blames the Allies for not stopping the Soviets pillaging West Germany, leaving his family to soviet mercy (or lake there of).

I don't think Vagen is Ironblood either. Cool story tho.
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well, my fan-fic had him taking over old tractory factories to churn out Hyenas and Shadowtraks as a pseudo-historical homage to the USSR which turned tractor factories into tank factories during WW2 to churn out their T-34s to fight on the Eastern Front.

i don't think i ever explained where he got the Sea Snake boats from...

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