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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby DAMartin » 26 Nov 2009 14:03

Yes, I found :cobracommander: , :duke: , Heavy Duty and :ripcord: somewhat different from their ARAH counterpart in personality traits, but :breaker2: , :destro: , Hawk, :scarlett: , :snakeeyes: , :storm: very faithful to the original versions ( :baroness: and :zartan: were at the middle-point), and the plot takes concepts right from the comic-books (like the nanomites or Hard Master's death).
On the other hand, we have the "acclaimed" Batman Returns with a blonde supernatural Catwoman, an uneducated Penguin, a Gordon who distrust Batman at the drop of a hat, and let's not forget the Bat-Terminator at the starring role...
However, now that the Baron has mentioned Batman Begins, I must say that movie is more faithful to its source material than ROC, but that's not saying ROC isn't faithful to many points of the G.I. Joe mythos.
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby Ross SC » 26 Nov 2009 14:32

yeah, but i saw penguin as penguin & catwoman as catwoman!
the only character who looked the part in ROC was baroness, but her story line sucked! i personally hated snake eyes, his molded face mask looked stupid & storm shadow was wearing trainers & spent too long in his stupid looking white suit! the one character that realy REALLY annoyed me was shipwreck! didnt even realise who he was @ 1st.
did anyone else find a certain persons TERRIBLE english accent really annoying??!!!!!
in it's own right it was ok.........
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby SteveD » 26 Nov 2009 14:42

Ooo, now we're on Batman I can join in - I loved the 90's Batman films Batman, and Batman Returns. Beyond that, it started to get a bit silly, and a bit crap. The newer films are awesome though I think - Batman Begins and the Dark Knight are brilliant. I may have enjoyed them more as I've never read Batman comics, so I had nothing to compare to or feel they didn't live up to.

To threadjack - can anyone recommmend a good entry point into the Batman and Superman DC worlds - possibly as a TPB? I' a Marvel guy, but yesterday bought the Monthly released Superman and Batman Comics only to find I was too late! Batman is dead! Any ideas for a good start point to go back to?
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby DAMartin » 26 Nov 2009 14:59

Ross SC wrote:yeah, but i saw penguin as penguin & catwoman as catwoman!
the only character who looked the part in ROC was baroness, but her story line sucked! i personally hated snake eyes, his molded face mask looked stupid & storm shadow was wearing trainers & spent too long in his stupid looking white suit! the one character that realy REALLY annoyed me was shipwreck! didnt even realise who he was @ 1st.
did anyone else find a certain persons TERRIBLE english accent really annoying??!!!!!
in it's own right it was ok.........
How could you see that... that THING as the Penguin? he was fat, yes, but he didn't have anything of the refinement of Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot. Being a fatty in a suit is not enough to be the Penguin; Personality counts. I can get a bit more the Catwoman thing, but still... who was the idiot who casted Michelle Pfeiffer and didn't tell her to dye? In fact, Sienna Miller DID dye to look like :baroness: , and yes, the "mind control" thing ruined her, but he was half the way to the character before that. I also disliked to see a mouth in :snakeeyes: 's mask, but that has been done before in ARAH, so the film is not to blame.

PS: Where was Shipwreck in the movie? I saw Jinx, but not Shipwreck.
SteveD wrote:Ooo, now we're on Batman I can join in - I loved the 90's Batman films Batman, and Batman Returns. Beyond that, it started to get a bit silly, and a bit crap. The newer films are awesome though I think - Batman Begins and the Dark Knight are brilliant. I may have enjoyed them more as I've never read Batman comics, so I had nothing to compare to or feel they didn't live up to.

To threadjack - can anyone recommmend a good entry point into the Batman and Superman DC worlds - possibly as a TPB? I' a Marvel guy, but yesterday bought the Monthly released Superman and Batman Comics only to find I was too late! Batman is dead! Any ideas for a good start point to go back to?

Returns and & Robin wer horrible, at least the new saga is making things good. I don't reccommend anything of the new DC, they are going downhill, killing J'onn J'onzz and pretending they can make a Justice League without him. Besides, they recovered the awful numbered Earths and completely missed the point of the Titans and put the new sidekicks as the team rather than the members from all life, though that one was corrected by creating a separate team of adult Titans, and Dick Grayson is Batman now, so not everything is lost (though the J'onn J'onzz thing beats everything else).
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby Ross SC » 26 Nov 2009 17:07

i meant breaker, i was looking @ a shipwreck custom while i was typing!
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby Sundance » 26 Nov 2009 17:11

Batman was great. BR was good. Forever was ok. &Robin had only one good thing: Alicia Silverstone's PVC clad arse.

BB and TDK on the otehr hand are more my cup of cocoa.

and Ross, the only guy in ROC with an English accent was Heavy Duty, played by an English actor. do you mean Christopher Ecclescake's Scottish accent?
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby The Baron » 26 Nov 2009 18:09

DAMartin wrote:I don't reccommend anything of the new DC, they are going downhill, killing J'onn J'onzz and pretending they can make a Justice League without him. Besides, they recovered the awful numbered Earths and completely missed the point of the Titans and put the new sidekicks as the team rather than the members from all life, though that one was corrected by creating a separate team of adult Titans, and Dick Grayson is Batman now, so not everything is lost (though the J'onn J'onzz thing beats everything else).

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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby SteveD » 26 Nov 2009 18:21

DAMartin wrote: Returns and & Robin wer horrible, at least the new saga is making things good. I don't reccommend anything of the new DC, they are going downhill, killing J'onn J'onzz and pretending they can make a Justice League without him. Besides, they recovered the awful numbered Earths and completely missed the point of the Titans and put the new sidekicks as the team rather than the members from all life, though that one was corrected by creating a separate team of adult Titans, and Dick Grayson is Batman now, so not everything is lost (though the J'onn J'onzz thing beats everything else).


:shock: Ermmmmmm - this is going to take some getting into, and sounds like a lot of hard work if any of that is to ever make any sense to me! Thanks though DA! :-)

Perhaps I should stick with my new found favourite cartoon instead - Shaun the Sheep!!!

(Baron - can we get a Shaun the Sheep Muticon installed please?)
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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby The Baron » 26 Nov 2009 18:29

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Re: Why?Why?Why?

Postby SteveD » 26 Nov 2009 18:38

The Baron wrote:No.

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